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		<title>By: Kapil</title>
		<link>http://www.excelcharts.com/blog/excel-chart-gallery-a-difficult-equilibrium/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Kapil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the Pie Chart displaying 11% is in the JUNK ! :) LOL.
I completely agree... I never prefer to use these JUNK charts, worse even are the pie charts. ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the Pie Chart displaying 11% is in the JUNK ! <img src='http://www.excelcharts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  LOL.<br />
I completely agree&#8230; I never prefer to use these JUNK charts, worse even are the pie charts. &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Excel Charts: If It Isn’t Broken…</title>
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		<dc:creator>Excel Charts: If It Isn’t Broken…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] said, we can agree that Excel&#8217;s chart gallery is notoriously poor, defaults and options a nightmare, and the implementation of advanced visualization techniques a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that how the utility of a pie chart depends on how and why it is used, and given that most times pie charts are not appropriate, maybe you should slice the pie chart &quot;icon&quot;: 89% in &#039;Junk&#039; and 11% in &#039;Useful&#039;. =)

Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that how the utility of a pie chart depends on how and why it is used, and given that most times pie charts are not appropriate, maybe you should slice the pie chart &#8220;icon&#8221;: 89% in &#8216;Junk&#8217; and 11% in &#8216;Useful&#8217;. =)</p>
<p>Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave -

Radar plots lose their effectiveness when the values are close to the center, and they suffer from orientation effects the same way as pie charts do. A good alternative is a parallel coordinate chart:
http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ParallelCoord.html

And while we all &quot;know&quot; that pies are good for showing portions of a whole, they are not really all that good for that purpose, especially if there are too many slices. I prefer a column or bar chart with sorted data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave -</p>
<p>Radar plots lose their effectiveness when the values are close to the center, and they suffer from orientation effects the same way as pie charts do. A good alternative is a parallel coordinate chart:<br />
<a href="http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ParallelCoord.html" rel="nofollow">http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ParallelCoord.html</a></p>
<p>And while we all &#8220;know&#8221; that pies are good for showing portions of a whole, they are not really all that good for that purpose, especially if there are too many slices. I prefer a column or bar chart with sorted data.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent.  I have found valid uses for pie charts: to show fractions of a whole; and radar charts: to show up to 8 variables; but otherwise I agree.  I teach my information visualization students to avoid most of the same graphs that you categorize as junk.

Because it requires scrolling to see the entire visualization I didn&#039;t notice at first that the heights of the two columns are an appropriate visualization that supports your conclusion.

Your visualization is reminiscent of Tufte&#039;s &quot;The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint:  Pitching Out Corrupts Within.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.  I have found valid uses for pie charts: to show fractions of a whole; and radar charts: to show up to 8 variables; but otherwise I agree.  I teach my information visualization students to avoid most of the same graphs that you categorize as junk.</p>
<p>Because it requires scrolling to see the entire visualization I didn&#8217;t notice at first that the heights of the two columns are an appropriate visualization that supports your conclusion.</p>
<p>Your visualization is reminiscent of Tufte&#8217;s &#8220;The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint:  Pitching Out Corrupts Within.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony, I used a pie chart to create something that should look like a balance board. That&#039;s why I titled the post &quot;a difficult equilibrium&quot;. This is a sort of infographic, but unfortunately my skills are limited when designing these things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, I used a pie chart to create something that should look like a balance board. That&#8217;s why I titled the post &#8220;a difficult equilibrium&#8221;. This is a sort of infographic, but unfortunately my skills are limited when designing these things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question Jorge.  If you listed the pie chart under the &quot;junk&quot; section, why did you use it to illustrate the percent junk vs. percent useful?  Kind of hypocritical, no?

@ Jon - bubble charts would be a good topic for another post because they seem to be coming increasingly popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question Jorge.  If you listed the pie chart under the &#8220;junk&#8221; section, why did you use it to illustrate the percent junk vs. percent useful?  Kind of hypocritical, no?</p>
<p>@ Jon &#8211; bubble charts would be a good topic for another post because they seem to be coming increasingly popular.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge -

I&#039;m almost in complete agreement. I would classify line/XY chart types with markers and lines as not junk. I would classify a bubble chart as 50% junk.

The situation changes when you look at the chart types that are not useful for displaying information but are useful for constructing a worthy display which is otherwise not attainable. For examplle, while stacked columns and bars are not as useful for displaying information as they seem, hiding selected series in the stack produces useful floating charts. These are good for Gantt charts, for example, or charts that track high and low values (e.g., daily temperatures, blood pressure). Or for customizing a candlestick chaart or making a box plot.

Re: 2007 vs. 2003. Jorge only showed the built-in standard chart types, whicch are essentially unchanged in 2007. He did not show the &quot;built-in custom&quot; types (great oxymoron, eh?) available in 2003 and earlier but dropped from 2007. This the junk content of 2007&#039;s standard charts matches 2003&#039;s. If you consider the junk content of the bult-in custom types, I&#039;ll bet 2003&#039;s raating drops to 7 or 8 percent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost in complete agreement. I would classify line/XY chart types with markers and lines as not junk. I would classify a bubble chart as 50% junk.</p>
<p>The situation changes when you look at the chart types that are not useful for displaying information but are useful for constructing a worthy display which is otherwise not attainable. For examplle, while stacked columns and bars are not as useful for displaying information as they seem, hiding selected series in the stack produces useful floating charts. These are good for Gantt charts, for example, or charts that track high and low values (e.g., daily temperatures, blood pressure). Or for customizing a candlestick chaart or making a box plot.</p>
<p>Re: 2007 vs. 2003. Jorge only showed the built-in standard chart types, whicch are essentially unchanged in 2007. He did not show the &#8220;built-in custom&#8221; types (great oxymoron, eh?) available in 2003 and earlier but dropped from 2007. This the junk content of 2007&#8217;s standard charts matches 2003&#8217;s. If you consider the junk content of the bult-in custom types, I&#8217;ll bet 2003&#8217;s raating drops to 7 or 8 percent.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, the chart gallery in Excel 2007 is exactly the same (well, at least in the beta version...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, the chart gallery in Excel 2007 is exactly the same (well, at least in the beta version&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Matias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And your chart also shows how a bar chart is much better than a pie chart.
Very nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And your chart also shows how a bar chart is much better than a pie chart.<br />
Very nice!</p>
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